@StephanJukic4K I coudn't find that $399 Sam's Club price it's listed at $488 I think I'll go with the Vizio I have a LG OLED trying to upgrade my cheapo 1080p in the bedroom to help with the picture withdrawal
Hello bobbycoolbreeze, the X930C doesn't actually quite match the UHD Alliance standards completely. It's color matches them on wide color gamut and it does actualy deliver excellent black leves that also match Ultra HD Premium but the one problem is the peak brightness. It doesn't reach close to the 1000 nits of UHD Premium HDR. the 2016 X930D just barely does match this peak brightness level though.
Sony in any case isn't applyig its 4K HDR TVs for UHD Premium certification. Instead the company went for its own "4K HDR" label, which is a lot less strict on the specific standards for peak brightness and black level.
These things said, the X930C is one superb TV and its performance on black level and contrast is actually better than that of the X930D from 2016!
@mabradner hello there, my apologies for the late reply, we usually respond quickly but were away from the forum in recent weeks, though we are now checking it daily.
To answer your question in the simplest way possible, between the two TVs you mention, I'd recommend the LG UF7300 over the Vizio M60 C3 4K smart TV (I assume you're referring to the M-Series here, since you didn't specify the letter before the number 60. However I recommend it by only a slight margin.
The LG UF7300 isn't a bad 4K TV as far as LG LCD 2015 models go and it does offer the truly superb WebOS 2.0 smart TV platform for full access to online browsing, connectivity and apps features for 4K content but it suffers in the display department. This is a crucial issue and for this particular model, contrast is very poor and so is judder. On the other hand, it's upscaling engine is very good and color gamut is decent. Motion blur control is also definitely decent.
As for the Vizio M50-C3, it does offer superb contrast, very decent brightness and even better upscaling than the LG model but overall, it's not enormously superior to its LG counterpart, and the smart platform in the Vizio TV is nowhere near as good as LG WebOS (no web browser, though it does offer access to 4K content apps like Netflix and Amazon among others) 2.0. Thus, I'd say that if display and web connectivity are both important, the LG UF7300 is the better choice. If just display is your key metric and you really want great contrast, go with the Vizio.
All great advice from Stephen, however, if you're looking to purchase a Sony 4K set and haven't done already, and you can wait a couple of months then they're releasing an entire new 4K model range (and some standard HD sets too). They're discontinuing the KD65/75X9305 range (the wedge design with inbuilt 90W Magnetic Fluid speakers to the sides), which is a shame as it's a solid set, especially the 75" version.
Sony's new Backlight Master Drive System is a full backlit LED arrangement rather than an edge lit system, and is reported to pump out brightness levels at around 4000 Nits. By comparison most edge lit LED systems on the market now are up at about 1000 Nits, whereas OLEDs only pump out about 650-850 Nits. One of the main reasons why the image blows out when you bump the brightness to over 50%, destroying those perfect blacks OLED likes to use as a USP.
With a 4000 nit output the LED Black levels will rival OLED, if not beat it hands down, and you also don't have to worry about messing up your picture quality by boosting the OLED brightness and contrast levels. Hopefully it'll also remove the picture darkening problems prevalent with active 3D glasses as well, if 3D is still your thing that is?
I'd also recommend buying a good pair of Ray Bans if you buy an LED BMDS 4K set!
Quite simply I'm pretty much sure that you should go for the OLED model. Which one in particular did you have in mind by the way? I'd recommend the EF9500 from late 2015 or the 2016 B6 and C6 OLED 4K models from this year in particular for price and quality. They all deliver by far the best display specs of any 4K TVs sold in the U.S right now and their only "defect" is lower peak brightness than that of some of the premium 2016 LCD HDR TVs but even in this, OLED has come a long way since 2014 and the 2016 OLEDs and the EF9500 from 2015 all deliver better peak brightness than most 2014 and 2015 LCD 4K TVs!
As for the future of OLED, I believe that it's pretty much solid. LG may be the only major seller of the technology in TVs in the U.S but other brands like Panasonic are already releasing OLED 4K TVs in international markets and the technology is generally maturing anyhow. We can't ever be 100% sure about the future but OLED definitely looks like it's staying and it's quality in display supports this too since the technology doesn't suffer from the same weaknesses as plasma did.
@funnehxxman123 As a P55-c1 owner, I can tell you that the viewing angle is excellent and the contrast superb. The black bars on movies are almost perfectly black due to FALD and Vizio has worked very hard to achieve this level of contrast, IPS be damed!
Hey there again Jonasac, If you're managing 54fps on high settings with your single 980 Ti, that's actually pretty good, though it depends on the type of game you're playing at those frame rates. That said, I can sympathize with it being annoying to consider putting settings on low in an effort to avoid texture pop, especially with such a high end and rather pricey card.
As for your final question, if the texture pop is a direct result of the GPU having trouble processing 4K graphics, and al the other suggestions I made and your own efforts didn't work then a second 980 Ti is definitely worth a try if it's what you'd like to buy anyhow. It will also likely do the trick here.
Also bear in mind that instead of a second GPU, you might want to consider getting a 4K monitor with G-Sync. If you're already managing decent frame rates, the addition of G-Sync in your monitor, along with your Nvidia card might go a long way towards smoothing things out on graphics.
Thank you very much for the reply/insight. As a direct result, I sprung for the Samsung 55JS8500SUHD. OMG, was that a great choice!!
I am so happy with this tv. After some simple calibrating to my liking, I am so happy with my purchase. The Tizen OS had me at hello...I am not kidding. With regards to any tv OS that I have played with (with the exception of WebOS), they are horrible, but not the Tizen. They did a good all around job on this OS, and it is buttery smooth, most of the time. Don't get me wrong, it's still a tv OS, but a good one for what it is.
The picture is nothing short of stunning. I have yet to see some of the shadowing, blooming and other things that some (very few) have complained about. Then again, I haven't critiqued the tv as some probably have and do, although I have been somewhat of hawk watching for imperfections. I have seen none on the level that would cause me to make a return/exchange. I love this tv, and at a bargain of 1499.99 (Best Buy).
The sound of this tv is awesome, as well. There are probably some better sounds from other tv's, but the 8500 sounds great.
All in all, I guess it's obvious that I love my Sammy. Kudos to discuss.4K.com for a quick and insightful reply. I am truly grateful. This site has a wealth of info for a would be 4K purchaser to make a reasonable, conscientious purchase on a 4K tv today. Thanks again!!!
I just have a question, since the 4k blu ray players and 4k blu rays are soon to be available to consumers, how come there are no reviews or "FIRST LOOK" on the blu rays, I mean, has anyone actually seen how the picture quality is on screen, have they tested an actual 4k movie? Do they look much better than 1080p. I've seen 4k footage like at Best Buy and stuff, but never seen or heard about an actual 4k Movie like supposedly "THE MARTIAN" inserted in a 4k blu ray player and been reviewed. Has anyone seen anything on the internet? thx
Your ATI Radeon R9 390 only has HDMI 1.4a output, this HDMI connection can’t carry a 4K signal at 60Hz, so you’ll have to use the DisplayPort 1.2 channel if you want a better video output. However, as the Samsung JU6600 doesn't have DisplayPort connectivity you'll be hard pressed to do so. HDMI 1.4a doesn't have the capability to carry a 4K signal as well as a few other audio channels such as HDMI 2.0 can. Unfortunately you'll have to change your Gfx card out to a model that has HDMI 2.0 output to take full effect of your 4K Samsung set.
There are some great recommendations on this site under the "Game" tab at the top of the website.
Thanks for the information. The 48 model you suggested sounds perfect, unfortunately I only have a space of about 42 inches between windows and it's footprint would be too large. Again your help has enlightened me to more of what I find important and what I need to brush up on. Take care and thanks again for all your help.
Hello Mr. John, actually no. While the LG monitor you mention is a great piece of technology, i'd argue that your best choice might be either of the two ViewSonic 4K monitors listed in our Monitors page. They both offer superior connectivity features and what I'd call bettter visual specs, with IPS or similar display technologies, wider color coverage and some other great specs that are great for accurate editing of photography and video cuts.
Hello FarenKo, without a doubt I'd suggest you go for the 2016 65 inch Vizio P-Series you mention in your comment. This is by far the better of these two TVs and is one of the best LCD HDR 4K TVs we've seen so far in 2016. For one thing, it offers a high quality HDR display that includes superb wide color gamut, high peak brightness, superbly strong black levels and some of the best contrast we've seen in any 2016 4K TVs with LCD backlighting. Furthermore, the P-Series 2016 smart platform, SmartCast, is much better than its 2015 and 2014 cousins were. Here is our review of the P-Series.
The LG model is not nearly as sharp in its specs and as seems to be typical of LG, the company has not put nearly enough attention into quality on this mid-range 2016 LCD 4K TV.
Hello there bhupinder, I would absolutely recommend the Samsung KS9000 more than the Sony X930D. The Samsung model offers a much better quality of HDR contrast, a far larger contrast ratio, superior and superb peak brightness (by at least a third higher at 1416 nits vs. the Sony X930D's 980 nits or so) and color performance that's about equal to that of the Sony. Furthermore, Samsung's smart TV platform is better in our view and these SUHD TVs com with an external One Connct box which makes them more easy to future-proof. More than anything however, the KS9000 siply delivers the crucial video tchnology of the near futur much better than does the Sony edge-lit model. I'm referring here to HDR and it makes this TV more worth the purchase.
Hello Born-Ruff. The answer to this question is simple enough: Yes, the JS8500 is definitely the slightly more worthwhile deal, along with its cousin the JS8000 by a bit smaller margin. Both TVs, at least in our estimation, offer superior color and contrast performance to Sony's X810C and X850C, and both Samsung models have what we consider to be the slighlty faster smart TV platform. However, two things in which the Sony TVs are possibly better performers (at lest the X850C) are motion control (for smooth movement during action scenes) and upscaling of SD, 720p and Full HD content.
To summarize, the two Sony models are also excellent TVs and the Sony X850C is a particularly solid performer but Samsung's two JS models are slightly better on the whole and the JS8500 is worth its higher price.
And in our view, the Dell beats out the Asus by a slight margin in terms of color quality, display contrast and, most importantly, excellent connectivity specs. Both monitors are pretty boring in terms of physical design but this shouldn't be a major problem for an office setting (though the Dell model is the more aesthetic monitor) So their specs are key, and on this, again, Dell's P2715Q 4K UHD monitor is the winner.
However, price-wise, the Asus model is slightly cheaper at $467 vs. Dell's $504 price tag. So if budget is your main concern for a really larger order of units, for for the Asus. It should be more than good enough for any professional office setting.